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Information from Dave Campbell:

E-mail #1

I have summarised the 2 queries I have, with the relevent data - I stripped out a lot of stuff to make it clearer. I have a lot of Fairmaner data from this time, but haven't put it together to my satisfaction yet. A particular problem is the number of Williams. Hopefully, these Brereton connections may help to clear things up

1. How does this Thomas Brereton relate to William Fairmaner?
From the will of William Fairmaner East Marden/Upmarden in 1649, son of Edmund and Mildred.
He leaves his son in law, Thomas Brereton, £50.
(William was married to a Katherine, surname unknown and no children known, she remarried and became Katherine Scott)

From “Pedigree of Breretons of Chilgrove and Greenlands, West Dean”
Thomas Brereton of Greenlands,West Dean, also of Stoughton,Emsworth and Cuckfield;Living W Dean at time of death. Lord of the manor of Stanford Dingley,Berks
Thomas married Katherine Pitt, sister of John Pitt of Shopwick manor, and E Marden, Sussex.
Cousin of Mary Goddard and Dorothy Walwyn
William Pitt of Clare Market,Westminster mentioned in will, proved by William Pitt of St Clements Dane.
(The will of Thomas’ sister Mary, in 1701, mentions her Uncle, John Pitts and her cousins Mary Goddard and Dorothy Walwyn – has the pedigree assumed that his wife is Katherine Pitt from the uncle’s name?)

IGI:CATHARINE PITT Christening:30 JAN 1630 Treyford With Didling Father:JOHN PITT

I also came across this entry in the Idsworth Manorial book, in 1686:
“Thomas Jenman (now Thomas Brereton)”
And
I have a William Fairmaner, possibly the uncle of the above William, who married Margaret Symes, previously married to a Jenman and who had a son, Thomas Jenman born c1650.
He is named as Thomas Jenman in her will of 1697, in which she left land called “Biggest Holt Croft” lying by the side of East Harting Downs to her granddaughter Katherine.
In 1714 John Scott of Elsted leased land called Holt Close, near the top of East Harting Doune, by land sometime Jenmans and purchased from Thomas Brereton of Stoughton.

2. How does Mary Silvester relate to the Fairmaners?

IGI:Richard Brereton Mar:17/9/1687 West Deane Spouse:Mary Silvester
IGI:THOMAS WILLM. BRERETON Chr:29 JAN 1697 West Dean Father:RICHD. BRERETON Mother:MARY
IGI:MARY FAIREMANNER Mar:31 OCT 1669 West Dean Spouse:ISAAC MOODY
IGI:JOHN MOODY Chr:04 JUN 1683 West Dean Father:ISAAC MOODY Mother:MARY

Conveyance 26 May 1737
From Thomas William Brereton of Greenlands in West Dean, esq., to George Harris, citizen and alderman of Chichester
Witnesses: John Moody, Thomas Brett

These Admons, my translations from the latin, so no guarantees:
Admon William Fairmaner of Eastmarden 13 Feb 1697
William Fairmaner, deceased, admission refused through Mariani Wolwyn also known as Fairmaner, his mother, granted to Edmund Fairmaner, nearest relative through his father

Admon William Fairmaner of Eastmarden 31 Jan 1698
William Fairmaner, deceased, admission refused through Mary Wallwin also known as
Fairmaner, his mother, granted to Mary Brereton, his sister through his mother

Admon William Fairmaner of Eastmarden 14 Oct 1721
William Fairmaner, deceased, admission refused through Mary Fairmaner also known as
Warlvin, his mother, deceased, and Mary Brereton also known as Silvester, his sister,
also deceased, granted to Thomas William Brereton, his nephew through his mother.

Admon Mary Brereton of West Deane (follows William Fairmaner, above in 1721)
Mary Brereton also known as Silvester, deceased, granted to Thomas William Brereton
her son . . .

Here is the rest of relevent data from the Brereton Pedigree:
Children of Thomas&Katherine
Richard Brereton of Chilgrove and Greenlands, West Dean.
Held manor of E Marden 1711 and lands N Marden,Stoughton,Walderton and Oving, Sussex.
Buried at Westbourne 21 Jul 1720 (date possibly wrong)
Married Mary Silvester of Petersfield
Married Dorothy Troughton of St Budes, spinster age 24, 8 Jul 1708
William, mentioned in will of sister Mary 1701
Mary of East Marden. Lands in Shopwick,Sussex,Durleston,Oxon and Stanford,Berks
Frances. Married Rev Edward Onley, Rector of Cottesmore,Rutland

Children of Richard and Mary
Thomas William Brereton of West Dean & East Marden
Married Celia Yates of the Cathedral Close, Chichester.ML 13 Dec 1721
Mary. In will of Aunt Mary 1701
Dorothea

Children of Richard and Dorothy
Anne. Bapt West Dean 8 Sept 1709.Married 6 June 1740 Henry Troughton of St John Zachary,Lon

Children of Thomas and Celia
Thomas.Bapt 13 June 1723 W Dean. Bur 3 Sep 1724 W Dean
William.Bapt 10 Aug 1726 W Dean.Nothing after
Celia Bapt 12 Jul 1727
.
William. Born London. Admitted Pens,Chist’s Coll Camb 9 Sep 1753 age 18,resided till Lady Day 1756. Ed Eton 1748-53
.
I Also have copies of these wills and a number of legal references from the NA website:
Thomas Brereton 1699 of Greenlands, West Dean Digital copy
Katherine Brereton1701 of East Marden Digital copy
Mary Brereton 1701 of East Marden Digital copy
Richard Brereton 1720 of Greenlands, West Dean Digital copy

And a number of Fairmaner wills.

E-mail #2

Thinking again about the Thomas mentioned in the will of 1649 and only knowing of one Thomas in the area at that time , ie the father of Richard, I realised I hadn't checked the burial records for Breretons.
Here is the list from the NBI for Sussex, there is nothing in Hampshire, where they could have strayed to.
And there is a another Thomas, died 1667 - who is he?

16 Apr 1558 Christover BRERETON Hailsham, St Mary
17 Jan 1667 Thomas BRERETON East Marden, St Peter ?
7 Feb 1693 Thomas BRERETON East Marden, St Peter b.1690
15 Jan 1695 Richard BRERETON East Marden, St Peter b.1691
28 Oct 1699 Thomas BRERETON East Marden, St Peter b.1612 f of Richard
3 Nov 1701 Mary BRERETON East Marden, St Peter d of Thos&Katherine
15 May 1702 Katherine BRERETON East Marden, St Peter w of Thomas
29 Sep 1707 Mary BRERETON East Marden, St Peter w of Richard?
16 Jun 1738 BRERETON East Marden, St Peter
5 May 1817 Charlotte BRERETON 63 Chichester, St Peter the Great
26 Sep 1854 Mary Charlotte BRERETON 69 Chichester, St Peter the Great

E-mail #3

That Thomas is in the IGI, baptised 1666, so not the one from 1649, unless they didn't baptise him at birth and waited until he was dying and that seems unlikely.

THOS. BRERETON Chr:20 DEC 1666 East Marden Father:THO. BRERETON Mother:KATHERINE
Dth:17 JAN 1666

The East Marden records seem to be missing between 1640 and 1665, I'll see if there is anything else if I go back to Chichester - I might be going that way on Friday.

The Thomas, that married Katherine, was born 1612 so he was quite old when he had Thomas - I wonder if there was an earlier marriage?

 

 
 

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